How Dreamcast Traumatised Gaming

[Barry the Nomad]

@Aki-at
What's your first if you don't mind me asking?

[MadeManG74]

Mega Drive.

[CrazyT]

Note I removed that bit after having read it aloud and well before you made your post (perhaps you hadn't refreshed the page since posting?) after I realized that fluffy was simply doing his usual routine of trying to piss a majority of the forum off. So I respectfully deleted it and take back the mean words. I have in fact owned a PS2 and thought it was a piece of shit in many respects: hardware longevity (I have had two fail on me in 9 years, all three of my Dreamcasts are still running strong with no issues), broken add-on promises (harddrive and modem were failures) and general game quality in terms of many of my favorite publishers. Besides VF4, the PS2 didn't offer much in terms of SEGA until much later with Yakuza in 2006.

Well, even though I disagree, I can also understand the way you think. For me personally when I got a modded ps2, 2 years ago, I felt like I missed out big time, though there are certainly no gems like Skies of arcadia to be found, i'll give you that.

[Aki-at]

@Aki-at
What's your first if you don't mind me asking?

The Nintendo Wii.

Nah I'm just kidding, it's the SEGA Mega Drive, Revenge of Shinobi and Shinobi 3, Sonic 1, 2, 3 & Knuckles, Streets of Rage 1 and 2, Ristar, Phantasy Star 4, Shining Force 1 and 2, Monster World 3 and 4, Contra, Quack Shot, Ecco 1 and 2, Vectorman 1 and 2, X-Men: Clone Wars, Gunstar Heroes, Dynamite Heady and well, we can be here all day, do you want to be here all day?

[Aki-at]

Mega Drive.

You ruined the surprise, I should ban you for that.

[Sharky]

Haven't had time to read this thread until now. I pretty much totally agree!

In fact Joe, if you would like to make a 'final perfect copy' of your opinions here, maybe anything you forgot to mention others may have interjected etc.

I would like to make this into a front page article... full credit to you of course.

[Happy Cat]

why not let joe put it up himself =P

i mean, i thought that was a feature of SEGAbits

anyone can put up articles, they just had to be approved.

[Sega Uranus]

Comparing the Dreamcast's 200+ games with the PlayStation 2's 14,000+ games is retarded and awkward. Of course even though half of the games Fluffy mentioned sucked there are more good games on it, many Dreamcast games were ported to it too, so it is not really fair at all.

It is easy to argue that based on the releases available, the Dreamcast has a higher percentage of those games worth playing, but I think anyone in the world rather have the option to play 12x more games regardless of their quality.

If you are going to say the PlayStation 3 is the best thing to play games on based on that though... lol. Using that mentality the best has and always will be the PC as you can play literally almost every game ever created on it now, if not now then in a couple of years.

Something I want to bring to the table though is that the Dreamcast was also sort of the start of making simpler gameplay controls and options available, something almost every "Hardcore Gamer" complains to death about now. If you compare many of the most complicated games on it to the most complicated games on the PlayStation, Nintendo 64 and Saturn you will see that those might not have been deeper, but they were much harder to wrap their head around than most Dreamcast games. Something like Armored Core compared to Fur Fighters is a good example.

[Sharky]

why not let joe put it up himself =P

i mean, i thought that was a feature of SEGAbits

anyone can put up articles, they just had to be approved.

That is what I was suggesting.

[fluffymoochicken]

I'm glad someone has at least challenged the Dreamcast in this thread.

You're welcome. =)

Note I removed that bit after having read it aloud and well before you made your post (perhaps you hadn't refreshed the page since posting?) after I realized that fluffy was simply doing his usual routine of trying to piss a majority of the forum off.

Do you ever believe that my opinions are sincere?

So I respectfully deleted it and take back the mean words. I have in fact owned a PS2 and thought it was a piece of shit in many respects: hardware longevity

...and yet, you love the Xbox 360. Would this qualify as irony?

Besides VF4, the PS2 didn't offer much in terms of SEGA until much later with Yakuza in 2006.

Oh yeah! Let's add Yakuza and Yakuza 2 on to that list of good PS2 games. That makes about 160 total now, right? Yet, you couldn't find anything that appeals to you other than Yakuza and VF4? :lol: Pfffft, and you say that I have no taste. Puh-lease. Pot calling the kettle black.

If you are going to say the PlayStation 3 is the best thing to play games on based on that though... lol. Using that mentality the best has and always will be the PC as you can play literally almost every game ever created on it now, if not now then in a couple of years.

Hmmm... maybe.

But the 60 GB launch PS3 is still the best console to own, currently.

[Sega Uranus]

...and yet, you love the Xbox 360. Would this qualify as irony?

His Xbox 360 never broke, so why would that bother him?

But the 60 GB launch PS3 is still the best console to own, currently.

A "Console" is a computing device.

I know what you mean though, but my point was that your logic does not really seem fair. The Xbox 360 is completely capable of playing releases on other platforms, for instance I could play any Genesis game perfectly on a modded one if I wanted to. Does not mean I should like it more than the Genesis.

You should compare video game consoles by the games designed for it specifically, that is why Barry reacted so poorly to your forcefully arrogant posts.

[CrazyT]

@uranus

I don't get it. Could you give some examples of games that are not fair to use against dc.

I can understand the whole genesis argument, but what else do you mean?

[Sega Uranus]

The response was to how he meant PlayStation 3 was just "THE BEST" (yes, lame pun), as if we should consider the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 as part of the PlayStation 3's lineup. I did not really think that was fair.

[fluffymoochicken]

His Xbox 360 never broke, so why would that bother him?

He's one of the very, very few lucky ones. The Xbox 360 possibly has the most prolific console failure rate of all time.

At any rate, I've had my fair share of broken Dreamcasts, but I still don't find it a reason to hate the system.

You should compare video game consoles by the games designed for it specifically, that is why Barry reacted so poorly to your forcefully arrogant posts.

But the only titles I mentioned were real PS2 releases... not homebrew emulators or backwards compatible PS1 games. >_>

The reason why 60 GB PS3 is the best console out there is because it literally has a PS2 inside, for one... It is REAL PS2 hardware, not emulation. Thus, it could be seen as being two consoles in one.

The PS3's own library isn't quite as impressive as the PS2's, but it's gotten better over time. Its retail lineup certainly has more of a "something for everyone" vibe going for it than the 360 and Wii, which both seemed at times to be focused solely on a certain demographics (gramers and casuals, respectively).

[MadeManG74]

I really think that the 360 has quite a good variety in games myself. I also despise the term 'Gramers'.

As for hardware reliability, I've had my Saturn break once (Laser died, had to buy new one), and my Dreamcast break once too (got that replaced). Dreamcast #2 seems to acting up a bit too now, everytime I play CVS2 it seems to re-set itself randomly and often.
And of course the 360, I think that's broken down and had to be repaired about 5 times now. Thankfully MS Australia have wonderful customer service and it's been great.

What is this topic about again? Oh right. Yeah I like Dreamcast games, especially that Shenmue one. Or two. I enjoyed them, I did.